A decade ago, humans, gods, and demons joined forces to stand against the threat of the colossal dragon, Bahamut.
Now, in the present, humans living in the capital city of Anatae have been enjoying lavish and prosperous lives. Their progress is largely due to the administration of the newly appointed king, Charioce XVII, who has stolen a power from the gods and allowed for the abuse and slavery of the demon race in the capital. As humans continue to immorally exploit demons, a sense of hostility against humans begins to build up within demon communities, threatening a revolt. Meanwhile, an atmosphere of uneasiness is spreading among the gods, as they scramble to regain their lost power.
Amidst it all, Nina Drango, a cheerful young bounty hunter, has arrived at the Royal Capital with hopes of settling down and earning a living. However, her peaceful life in the capital is quickly thrown into chaos when she crosses paths with the ominous Rag Demon who is determined to seek revenge against humans, and Kaisar Lidfard, a noble knight battling an internal moral conflict.
Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul continues the tale of the social and moral conflict between humans, gods, and demons, and their struggle for survival and dominance.
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Javamaster
So, Shingeki no Bahmut: Virgin Soul. The much anticipated sequel to the 2014 anime (in my opinion) Shingeki no Bahamut: Genesis finally aired it's 24th and final episode and boy was it a major let down. Let me get straight into it. Story: 3/10 The story picks up 10 years after our heroes have saved the planet from a certain destruction. And what did they get for their selfless sacrifice? Favaro is MIA for half the season and Kaiser in stuck in stagnation as the commander of a dying-out military force. Some nobody is out of the blue named King and is following closely in the footstepsof an all-to-familiar 1939-1945 dictator from west Europe. Janne is exiled for reasons beyond my understanding. Demons are discriminated and considered as trash, angels are being massacred left and right for no reason and humans are just kind-of there. A NEW character is introduced, without any background or foreshadowing, without any character development or contribution and we're somehow supposed to jump aboard.
Skip a few episodes (23 to be precise) and we come to the conclusion where, SURPRISINGLY all the bad guys turn out to be ACTUALLY good guys, some people die, get forgotten and the BAD guys, who turned GOOD guys get to live happily ever after as heroes. Sound like LeLouche? Well, it's LeLouce only without him dying but instead getting everything he wanted and more.
(those of you, who actually sit through this 24 episode of time-waste will understand)
Art: 8/10
Just like the prequel, the art in this sequel is top-notch. It's not on the level of Unlimited CashWorks but it will leave you satisfied if visual effects are all you're looking for.
Sound: 5/10
Let's get this straight - the bad-ass opening from season 1 is gone and it's not coming back. The OP and ED in this sequel are not worth mentioning and the soundtrack in the actual anime is almost forgettable.
Characters: 3/10
Bland villains, bland main character, little to no character development, lots and LOTS of plot armor for the important characters. NO plot armor for the side characters. Not really the strong point of this anime (much like the story). Bad guys turning good - cliche as cliches get. The true bad guy defeated, but not really, so that a 3rd season cash-grab can be made - check! If you're into mindless action and shallow storytelling, with little to no character presence, then this anime is PERFECT for you.
Enjoymend: 5/10
The first half of the anime had potential. The second half ruined it all with it's horrendous storytelling, cliche characters and predictable plot. Not to mention the sacrifice of key characters without their contribution to the story being fully told.
Overall: 4/10
I wish I could give it a lower score but the average from the above 5 categories prevents me from doing so.
To summarize: if you are into a shallow story, with bland characters, no development, lots of minutes (potentially hours) wasted in idle chatter, some battles and some moral discussions, all leading to a predictable ending (with a few sad but overall overlooked deaths here and there) then this anime is definitely for you (poor soul).
I do hope we NEVER see a third sequel, as that will most certainly butcher an already massacred anime.
DarthBob
I will be starting this with a warning: If you are looking for fast paced action, suave dialogue, likable characters and great fight choreography… which is to say, an actual sequel to Shingeki no Bahamut: Genesis, then turn back right now. Close this tab and never look back at this show. This is not the sequel that Genesis deserved… or even one that it needed, looking at the end result. Virgin Soul can only be described as a convoluted mess, which not even the returning characters could save. If that wasn’t descriptive enough, then read on. Below, I will attempt to explain exactly what went wrongwith Virgin Soul. Do expect some minor spoilers with regard to the initial few episodes.
Story (4/10):
The story of Virgin Soul starts 10 years after the events of Genesis, and the world is quite different from how we remember it. Humanity has extended its reaches, as far as to bring demon-kind to its knees, while achieving great power along the way. These changes bring with them quite some intrigue, and world-building progresses at an optimal pace. Then, they introduce the new protagonist, Nina Drango. Even ignoring her endless libido and her shoujo manga-esque encounters with pretty much any young man, the story seems to be progressing somewhere. The themes of morality and sociology were quite strong in the initial few episodes, especially from the likes of returning characters such as Kaisar and Azazel. So far so good…
Then, somewhere along the way, the series started on a downward spiral that never really stopped. The intelligent conversations and ideas just slowly faded out into the background, and the focus moved on to a romance which would make the likes of Twilight look half decent. I can state without doubt that the romance in Virgin Soul is the worst I have ever witnessed on screen. One could hope that at least this subplot may help develop the characters in question… well, in this case, it outright broke the character of the male participant, making his personality impossible to salvage.
The rest of the story can’t exactly be called intelligent, with multiple contradictory or even outright stupid reveals and ‘plot twists’. Worst thing is, every single thing just somehow leads back to the central romance, which just sucks the life out of the series. Honestly, if this were advertised as a shoujo anime which was unrelated to Shingeki no Bahamut, it may not have felt like such an insult, but the way it went, it simply became a detriment to its ‘prequel’.
Art (7/10):
The artwork and animation are quite reminiscent of Genesis, and are quite pleasing to look at. The only real gripe I have is how they use some outright atrocious crowd CGI in some scenes, which seem completely out of place.
Sound (6/10):
Above average, but nothing really special. The openings and endings are all decent, yet forgetful. All the Engrish in the songs didn’t exactly help that. Even the soundtracks weren’t anything to write home about.
Characters (3/10):
The greatest failure of Virgin Soul was certainly the depiction of the characters and their interactions. I’ll be analysing this in two parts: New characters and Returning characters.
When talking about the New characters, the first and foremost would be Nina Drango. The best way to describe her would be a female version of Hyoudou Issei. She spends most of her time drooling over any good-looking guy (which, for some reason, seems to be the norm for men in this show), and the rest of her time utterly wrecking the sho…. Umm… Causing trouble for others. Other than her, we have Charioce and Mugaro. Charioce had some great potential, and his views were quite intriguing to begin with… but of course, they decided that he was better off as a pretty-boy version of Hitler. As for Mugaro…. He was literally a walking plot device from beginning to end.
As for the Returning characters, we have Favaro, Kaisar and Azazel (well, there was Jeanne, Bacchus, Hamsa and Rita, but they’re not really worth mentioning at this point). We start off with quite a bit about Kaisar and his views. This was interesting while it lasted, but he started to become more and more insufferable as the series went on. Near the end of it, you’d be left wondering if it’s even the same character anymore. As for Favaro, I had great hopes for him. He flourished in the leading role of Genesis, and I was hoping that he would breathe some life into the show… sadly, all he got was a minor supporting role as Nina’s father-figure. The one good character that we got out of this series was Azazel. His development was exceptional. He portrays a loner, in the truest sense of the word – he fights alone, and takes the full brunt of the responsibilities for himself, including the failures.
One strange thing I noticed is how the characters were never particularly consistent, and their behaviour varied quite wildly from episode to episode. The character interactions ranged from decent to horrendous, depending on the characters in question and the mood of the writer at that time.
Enjoyment (2/10):
Extremely difficult to watch. My tolerance for bullshit is generally pretty high, but this one made me absolutely lose it. There were some moments in the latter half of the show that made me scream abuse and point rude gestures at the screen, simply because of how frustrating and annoying it was. Watching this show made me question the writer’s intelligence (or the lack thereof), at multiple occasions. I had to force myself to watch the last few episodes, just for the sake of finishing this review.
Overall (4.4 ~ 4/10):
With this, it is quite clear that the anime was a disaster, and that the new writer was a mistake. In fact, I’d be glad if she never touches anime ever again. So to speak, avoid this anime – there’s absolutely nothing good waiting for you in this one. With this, I conclude.
HaXXspetten
The original Shingeki no Bahamut: Genesis was perhaps one of the most surprising anime of the last few years in the sense that it was an ultra-rare case of a game adaptation that actually didn't suck. In fact, it was actually a really solid fantasy adventure, albeit perhaps not with the best ending. Virgin Soul can be roughly described as a more extreme version of the same pattern: it's even better than the original for the vast majority of its runtime... but also somehow has an even worse ending. Virgin Soul takes place approximately 10 years after the events of the original. At this point thehuman realm is the dominant force in the world, lead under the ruthless King Charioce XVII. He has managed to effectively steal the powers of the gods and used them in order to turn the demon residents in the capital area into slaves. Both Heaven and Hell have rebellious thoughts on their minds due to the oppression they're suffering, but they have a hard time doing much against the overwhelming power which Charioce possesses. It is here we find our new protagonist Nina Drango: a young and energetic bounty hunter who arrives at the capital seeking her fortune. As a tiny little catch, Nina has the ability to transform herself into a dragon, but only spontaneously, involuntarily and uncontrollably.
As the story goes on, many more characters are introduced, including both new ones and returning ones from Genesis. And what I really like about them is that they're not only extremely well characterized, but you get so many different perspectives about the conflict in place in Virgin Soul. It's not just that many of the characters are quite likable on a personal level, but the agendas of Heaven, Hell and the human realm respectively are all very logically depicted. It's a very balanced cast both in terms of differentiating back stories but also in terms of personalities. Nina herself may be extremely naïve and overly optimistic, but that's also part of her charm and her personality is frequently played around with as a means to drive the story forward in certain directions. And on the opposite side of things, I also have to say that Charioce is one of the more interesting villains I've seen in quite some time. There's so much mystery regarding his true intentions and motives that pretty much up until the very last few episodes of the anime, you still don't know for sure if he's really good or evil, or why he's doing any of the things he is. Yet at the same time he's extremely charismatic, and the peculiar Romeo & Juliet-esque relationship he forms with Nina throughout the story is very unorthodox in nature.
The world-building in Virgin Soul is also excellent. It truly feels like a living and breathing fantasy world in its own right, and it helps magnifying the importance of the consequences of any major event that takes place. And there truly are a lot of major events in it, with its large scale storyline and grandiose vocal + instrumental soundtrack. It just feels epic in general, but without being excessively overdramatized. But unfortunately, for some reason the story just can't keep up all the way to the end. I can't really go into detail without spoiling some of the biggest plot points, but basically there are several plot twists towards the end of the anime which quite frankly don't make any sense. They undermine the credibility of large portions of the anime's storyline leading up to that point, and as a result it leaves you with a bad taste in the mouth by the time you actually finish the show. Of course this is only a small part of the anime as a whole, but the ending is pretty important for a story like this, so seeing them slip up at the end like this is a bit frustrating. Especially considering that it's the second time in a row it has happened for the franchise.
That being said, for the most part Virgin Soul is still a very good fantasy adventure anime in my opinion, even more so than its predecessor, and while it certainly left a lot more to be desired in the end, ultimately the level of the journey leading up that point is enough to make up for it. I also firmly believe this is an anime which most people will enjoy regardless of what your usual genre preferences may be. Honestly I generally dislike action anime and typical battle shounen adventures even more so, but I like this anime quite a bit. Virgin Soul just feels more believable than most series of this genre. No one feels unreasonably overpowered in this story, it's not too predictable and other than the disappointing plot twists towards the end, the various motives for its rather diverse character cast are quite logical. Even when it does go into action scenes, every move feels perfectly plausible based on the characters' own writing, and you don't see any forced turnarounds as a result of plot-convenient power-ups or dumb luck. It all feels relatively fair.
Virgin Soul is a solid continuation to an already good anime, making great use of its world-building and characterization to deliver a very enjoyable final product. Yes, the ending kind of sucks (again) but don't let that discredit the quality of the show leading up to that point. Overall it's still one of the better adventure anime in the last few years.
98T4nk
This anime will probably never get a 3rd season since it has done so poorly but besides all that its a decent enough series it def isnt as good as the first season and part of that reason is because of the entire nina and chris dynamic which really takes the series from like an 8 to a 6. If you've watched season one you know how great the ending was i've grown to appreciate it more over the years but it was really good it defintely didn't need a second season in my eyes but they gave it a second season so like mostfans i was excited but then you see nina and not favaro and it leaves a sour taste in ya mouth personally i didnt care because she was so eccentric and just had a lot of high energy so i liked her the season was good for a whlle but then the king comes in he's basically made a society in which the demons are slaves to the humans and has some crazy ass army with magic powers and shit at first you'd think his only purpose was to be an asshole.. but cool hes a basic character then you have to factor in nina dragon changing ability at first it was whenever she became attracted to a guy she would turn into a dragon fast forward her meeting the king for the first time but the king is disguised and basically helps her out when a bunch of dudes were tryna beat her up or some shit llike that my memory isnt the best bare with me she ends up falling for him not knowing hes the king and because she ends up falling for him shes the only guy she is now attracted to her first love and he is the only person at that point which can turn her into a dragon. I thought the king would use her and the story would go in that direction but it didnt and that was my problem her loving the king him clearly having feelings but repressing them and him being a terrible dictator yet she still loves him. Her completely negating all the shit hes done because shes in love is retarded and it ruins the series in my books. They had previous characters from season one bacchus,jean,zombie girl,kaisar and favaro even back when favaro came back i was hyped but then he didn't really contribute much to the season even though in the moments where he did help nina out they were great but having nina as the main character and having favaro exist being a much better fleshed out character also made the series suffer. I'm just gonna skip to the ending it was good and bad but because it left me kind of frustrated i'll side with the bad more than the good. The fact that jean and Azazel allowed the king to live when they had the chance to kill him is beyond me the fight with the bahamut was a cup of coffee the result of the bahamut with nina ending up becoming mute and is unable to speak while the king has become blind in both eyes... i mean wtf kind of shit is that. The good about the ending was nina meeting amira in the light of the bahamut which was cool but it didnt last long nor was much of anything and then the scene where favaro tells everyone hes leaving this occurs after the fight and nina and the others are having a meal she goes with him and ends up writing out a message on the ground because she cant speak anymore she tells favaro that she met amira in the light of the bahamut and relays a message she told her during that moment for favaro that was really cool but other than that the final episode was dissapointing the entire season has been disspointing and its a shame there was many good moments in this season but towards the ending half of the series it was very wishy washy and ended up falling off a cliff. Its not a bad season but it doesn't live up to how good the first season was so its a dissapointment. It really did not need a second season at all.
rtil
If you want to learn how to screw up a hero's journey story, a love story and a "good all along" story - all at the same time - look no further than Virgin Soul. I don't think i've seen an anime trip over itself more in its 3rd act than this one, and it's a real shame, because for the most part you have a cast of characters that mesh really well together. Even though I found Jean D'Arc and the angels quite boring and they suck up a lot of screen time in the 2nd half, that's really only the beginning of Virgin Soul'sproblems.
Virgin Soul starts off 10 years after the events of the 1st season. I wouldn't recommend watching this without first having seen the prequel.. but I wouldn't recommend this anime at all to begin with. But i'm getting ahead of myself - our main character this time around is Nina, a bubbly and energetic young girl looking for an adventurous new life in the capital. Over time, she eventually gets entangled with familiar cast members, although you'll have to be patient for some to arrive.
The villain - at first - seems to be the stern and unwavering young King Charioce, who has enslaved and killed thousands of demons and angels with a powerful magic bestowed on his personal army, effectively placing humans at the top of the world's food chain. Nina, befriending characters such as Jean, Bacchus and Azazel, is very much aware of this and vows to join their efforts to stop him.
But then.. well, our little starlet Nina unknowingly falls in love with him. And you could forgive some young puppy love - especially if you don't know your crush is a genocidal psychopath hellbent on world domination. But then it keeps going - even after she realizes who he actually is, she insists that he should be spared - because how could her naive feelings possibly be wrong? And thus Nina goes from being the ambitious, likable young sprout to a completely insufferable, selfish brat who consistently screws over her friends.
And all this culminates to what has to be one of the most confused, muddied and bizarre disasters of a 3rd act of a story. There's only so much I can give away without completely spoiling the entire sorry excuse of a story, but I will say this - the plot "twists" are totally insulting to the audience, and everything that made this franchise good gets sidelined in favor of shoving in a totally unappealing romantic sideplot as the crux of the 2nd half.
The final episodes, while exciting and heartwrenching for brief moments, are totally baffling. That the writers thought audiences would buy into everything that was shoehorned into this anime legitimately puzzles me. And how all of Nina's friends weren't absolutely infuriated with her is equally confusing - but also probably just lazy writing.
And that is really the main issue with Virgin Soul. The set-up is fantastic, but it can't deliver on one-upping itself. Maybe the writers got lost in the story and simply ran out of time to come up with a good ending. We'll probably never know. And it doesn't matter. What matters is that in the end, Virgin Soul is a great example of what NOT to do with the story paths the writers chose to follow.
If they had found a way to wrap up the story in a neat bow in 12 episodes, I would have recommended this anime. But it kept going, and it kept getting worse, and they ruined it. I only give it a 4/10 because I did enjoy the first half - a solid 8/10. The 2nd half is more like a 2/10. So yeah - if someone gave you a sandwich with random splotches of mold on it, would you eat it? You can't cut it in half and only eat the good parts. You've got to eat ALL of it. Don't go into this anime without expecting to be let down.
Raggadish
My pulse is still a bit high after this experience that was “Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul”. When I heard that a 24-episode sequel to “Shingeki no Bahamut: Genesis” was to be released, I was both part overly excited and part anxious. I loved the prequel, it instantly became one of my all-time favourites. So, naturally I was very nervous when I was watching the first episode of “Virgin Soul”, would it be as good as Genesis? I would have been satisfied with just half as good, but was rewarded with, that yes, it was indeed as good as Genesis. Or maybe even little betterbecause it had the double amount of episodes, which they used with exactly right sorts of material. You know, right amount of background stories, that fill up the gaps from the past 10 years since the prequel, and on world building. The extra time also gives the opportunity to knot every main and side character together in a story-wise appealing way, which neither forces their interaction or totally neglect it.
Well balanced, is the short term I seek to give a fast summarize of “Virgin Soul”. Just as it´s prequel, “Virgin Soul” mixes fantasy, adventure, action, drama, comedy, magic and romance in such a fluent and balanced manor.
And leaves me now with mixed feelings. I´m equally satisfied and sad that the adventure is over. The story, the characters, the action and the fights, the friendships and the romance, the epic adventures, and not to speak of the awesome animation and choreography, makes “Virgin Soul” shine like a star. Especially compared to many other shows this past two seasons, it is in its own league. I´m going to be honest, I´m absolutely biased. Not only cover “Virgin Soul” my favourite mix of genres, its execution, in my eyes, it’s done in an absolute perfect manor, and certainly worth the title masterpiece.
Now, when I got that of my chest, let´s talk about “Virgin Soul” in a little more practical way.
The story takes place 10 years after the end of the prequel. I highly recommend you to watch the prequel first, it makes the sequel 10 x more enjoyable. A lot have changed since that last destructive battle with Bahamut. Humans have with their new king Charioce XVII in the lead, turned their backs to the Gods and are ransacking their holy temples for power. The humans have used that power to attack the Demons Capital, and forced even the strongest demons into hiding. The ones not so lucky to escape, was turned into slaves to rebuild the Human Capital, Anatea. Demons are also forced to fight as gladiators, used for experiments, and to work as prostitutes. The gods have so far stand hand fallen at the march of the humans, and desperately seeks the one child that can turn the war to their favour. Only one Demon and his mysterious companion, seem to fight for the imprisoned demons, the Rag Demon. Disguised, he attacks and kills slave traders, soldiers, and noblemen that do horrific things to demons. Kaisar, now Captain of the Orleans Knights, are pressed by king Charioce, to obtain the Rag Demon at all costs. Rita now works as a doctor, and do everything in her usual calm, cool zombie manor.
And perfectly oblivious to all of it, Nina Dragno, a teenage girl from the far East who has come to the city for work, lands in the middle of everything. As the story progresses, the fates of those who was around last time, and new faces, are drawn together, and starts to spiral towards the inevitable ending.
This is the start ground of one hell of an adventure-fantasy-romance story. As in the prequel, they manage to weave this story web as neatly as ever. It´s coherent, balanced, and even paced. They manage to link the story to the prequel, so the characters actions get more weight behind them without feeling forced. Not many unnecessary, words or conversations. Their exchanges bear all meaning and clues to the plot, and how different characters are connected. They do a great job with keeping us in what’s happening and why, by cut in previous scenes that gives the information you need, and knit the story together. “Virgin Soul” has little slower pace than “Genesis”, but it has twice it´s time and the little shift of pace only left room for more exploring of the characters and the world setting. Like, why is he or she in that particular situation, with this or that character, or in that mind set.
*A tip while watching, many of the episodes have extra material relevant to the plot after the ED-song. So, if you not want to miss anything, check the remaining minutes of the episode when the ED starts. It´s a good chance that there is more material.
The concept of actions having consequences, are highly applied in the “Shingeki no Bahamut”-series. You can feel the brutality of deaths, the emotional scars they leave, and what those scars can lead to. That, is no small task to manage to display on screen. To provoke and establish those type of emotions, make me feel for the characters, their cause, and why they are fighting. That is what makes the fight scenes and action so good. I could feel the underlaying conviction, rage, determination, vengeance, love, or the regrets that drives the character. “Virgin Soul” have them all. It for sure has it´s lights part as well, which creates a very harmonic contrast. A warm delicious meal, with companions in a fairy tale cosy setting, or an everyday errand that ends up in an unlikely encounter, or the shopping for some goodies in a small shop, or a dance at a festival, are all details of light and easy happiness. The mood of “Virgin Soul” skews towards more darker tones the later half of the show, which makes the warm and happy parts clench your heart an extra bit more.
The characters are as well fleshed out as they can be. Their background stories, developments, relationships, and personalities are all satisfyingly explored and coherent. And here have “Virgin Soul” managed to do what so many before them have failed with, all the main and side characters feel equally important and interesting. In many shows, you get the feeling that many of the side characters are just there to make the protagonists look good or better than they are. That´s not the case for the characters in “Virgin Soul”, each of them are equally exciting to watch, and they all feels important to the plot. Some minor details, can at first seem very cliché, but are turned and used in a very heart-warming way, at least I could see the beauty of it. Of course, the personalities are exaggerated, this is anime after all. But, for me, it only highlights what´s “Virgin Soul” is all about. It´s about epic battles, people, and monsters. It´s about adventure, love, and hardships. It´s about family, bravery, vengeance, betrayal, and choices. About people brought together to write history.
I´ve read some complaints about Nina´s character, but I have only positive things to say about her. Nina was a fresh breath of air as a fantasy-heroine to me. She isn´t overly pretty, or overly smart, and for sure not a damsel in distress. She is however, independent, wild, caring, strong, fast, carefree, brave, and positive. Her character felt multi-layered, believable, and relatable to me.
This is an overall theme for the characters in the series, they have their personal traits, but are for sure not static. The things they go through, how they handle it, and how they grow from it as individuals, is just as different as it would be for you and me. Their reactions to certain events, felt in harmony with their character, but in the same time left them space to grow and change in a believable way.
The soundtrack is outstanding, to put it short. Dramatical orchestral music, during those intense battle scenes, beautiful and peace giving tones for the light and happy moments, and heart-clenching pieces for the emotional scenes. They even have some nice opera pieces. Can just say “Aaaawe”, and thank you for their good work. The sound effects are always spot on, and matches the great visuals perfectly. I could feel the impact of someone thrown into a stone wall, the power of an energy blast land, the rubble raining down across the city, or the chilling sound of a sword leaving its sheath.
The voice actors (Japanese) are outdoing themselves, each character is well matched with it´s voice actor. The cold and powerful voice Charioce, the honourable and passionate voice of Kaisar, the positive and carefree voice of Nina, the calm and un-faced voice of Rita, the desperate and rage filled voice of Azazel, and the fierce and strong voice of Jeanne D´Arc - they are all spot on. They made me cry and laugh many times during my watch.
The art, animation, direction, and choreography is in its own league. Top notch, it doesn´t get much better than this. Half the budget most`ve been spent on the characters eyes and faces, for not to speak of the backgrounds. The facial expression is so clear and intense, brought forth by those masterly done eyes. You can see the slightest shift in an emotion, how much they communicate with them. Bright colours and light are used to lift a burning determination, surprise, or warmth. The scenery is always gorgeous; no matter if it´s a bird´s view of the Capital with its stone and wooden houses and enormous lake, or the shiny lands of the gods, or a local festival with its tents, foods, dances and fireworks. It all looks positively stunning. The choreography is bloody perfect, the movements of the characters or objects, the angles they are followed in, are just so darn awesome. Just watch and see for yourself.
So, did I enjoy “Virgin Soul”? I think it is pretty clear that I enjoyed it a hell of a lot. Each episode felt like a well-rounded satisfying piece in the adventure that was “Virgin Soul” to me. Best damned thing I watched since its prequel earlier this year. And I´m quite thrilled that the show leaves it open for a continuation.
The characters were as awesome as ever, the story as interesting as ever, the battles as badass as ever, the romance one of the best I seen in a long while, the art and animation reached new heights, and the music was mind-baffling. “Virgin Soul” just landed on my all-time favourite list, no questions asked. Hands down, this was bloody awesome. Thanks again, studio MAPPA, who once again shows that they are a studio to be reckon with.
“Where does the wind blow? It blows towards tomorrow.”
Azzo67890
Why is everyone hating so much? I also hated this sequel because I hated Nina and I only cared to see Amira again, but compared to the other anime that were airing at the same time, this was definitely one of the good ones. The characters are original and the art is really nice. The intro was shit compared to the one before, and I hated this anime actually at the start, but the end was so sweet and now I kind of like it. Nina is actually a very nice character and stop rating this anime so low because it was not bad at all.
BlackCicero
As far as sequels go, I think Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul did a decent job. The story focuses on a new character Nina this time around and the old characters such as Favaro and Kaiser, while still important to the story, they play more of a supporting role this season. I thought the story was enjoyable overall although I'm probably being more lenient than most others. The writing in the story does have it's issues, especially in the second half of the season. The art and the animation were outstanding and I feel as if it was a step up from what the first seasonwas if I'm remembering it right. Also the soundtrack did a fabulous job of setting the atmosphere for the anime. The characters were good but the way some of them were handled could have been better.
Overall I had a great time with Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul and I thought it was near the level of where the previous season was.
Sleepyhead66
I initially dove into the season think that it would be about favaro looking for a way to rescue Amira but noo it’s about a stupid girl named Nina who is half dragon and fall for The villain while that was going I’m thinking really dude massacred angels and demons yet you still love him basically what I’m saying is the story was straight donkey poop It stole hours of my sleep let’s just hope if they ever do a third season they focus more on the characters of the first season instead of giving new main characters that makes a person wish they couldjump across screens just to punch the character in the face
Eanki
Shingeki no Bahamut: Genesis was a fun, vibrant, swashbuckling adventure in such a clusterfuck setting. To quote Tolkien's "On Fairy Stories", it's a Secondary World that does not inspire Secondary Belief. But it works for the kind of story Genesis attempted. Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul attempts to expound on that simple narrative with a far more ambitious story, one that is set up to fail in the light of the world built in Genesis. The established world simply does not hold up to scrutiny once a more serious narrative repeatedly brings forth its glaring flaws. Virgin Soul is set 10 years after the events ofGenesis, under a new social equilibrium and power dynamic of a new world order. Enter the ubermensch, super-powered, menacingly armored humans under the control of the king. With humanity's newfound might, they now waged war upon gods and demons. The latter has been soundly defeated years ago and made slaves under the cruel whip of the species they once tormented.
Here, the most glaring problem arises almost immediately. Ethics, morality, socio-economic realities, these are such complicated concepts for a setting with so many holes and so many facets still left unestablished.
The power dynamics introduced in Genesis is one where humans fight an eternal war with demons, with the occasional help from the gods thrown in. One can infer from the events in Genesis that humans are merely proxy in the wars of the gods and demons. It's so simplistic in nature and now that the wheels had turned, you cannot bring yourself to care. Now humanity has the upper hand and by god, they have every right to hold demons in contempt and to flaunt their power against the gods whose whims and fancy they are no longer under the mercy of.
And what is ethics? At what state of social equilibrium is this world under? How do they view slavery? A necessary evil in rebuilding? A proof of humanity's triumph? This should clue you in to how secure or how tenuous the king's hold is and how the events of the story changes that.
On the side of the gods, their effort to bring humanity back into their fold calls forth into question the benefits of such an arrangement. Aside from ready cannon fodder which seems to be composed entirely of one kingdom, there is no other stated benefit for their leader to be feverish about. There is still the matter of survival, though certain conversations side-line that in favor of the idea that humanity, that the sheep has strayed from the flock and requires a shepherd. Or maybe the gods are the supreme arbiter of the world order? Except that the events of Genesis says otherwise.
What is faith? How does it work in pantheon of what seems to be a shit-ton of deities? Are angels gods? Are they minor deities? What do they inspire in people? We have a world where deities have physical manifestations. Surely its not your usual Abrahamic belief?
It's hard to be invested in a setting you keep questioning. Other reviewers will say the failure of Virgin Soul lies in the characters or the story. They are wrong. The failure of Virgin Soul lies in the setting that should have given more depth to the story and more nuance to the characters and their decisions.
Exploring nuance in the politics and ethics of a setting with the barest of social equilibrium... it's simply isn't done. Especially so when much of the meat of Virgin Soul before the final third of its runtime is an attempt at that.
Not much else can be said about Virgin Soul. If you know your Gaise Macon, your Arthas Menethil, your Lelouch Lamperouge, then you've seen this story done better, even by such an infinitesimal degree.
itachicat
Hours since the end and it is still in my mind. Cant get myself together! I feel for that series. Dont want to analyse and put in formulas anything. Series left me lifted. From the first episode to the last it was an exiting and heart touching journey that was gaining momentum with each minute. I liked the action and romance weave. Nina is a surprising caracter, who turned out to be a strong and courageous woman. The love intrigue will be one of my all time favorites. I love that the end is not "right". I love that the LOVE justifies everything, that fellins cannot be changed, that hearts got tied up in a knot.
Absolutelly loved endings by DAOKO, espesially "Cinderella".. so lovely! Openings were bald!
vanillahobbit
My second Review is about Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul which continues the tale of the social and moral conflict between humans, gods, and demons, and their struggle for survival and dominance Story: 8/10 In Terms of Story Writing it did a lot of things good like unexpectedly deaths of characters,introduction of the main cast Nina and telling a high quality fantasy story .In the ends it lacks a little bit of quality because you see that they tried to put as much as much as possible in the last few episodes instead of telling a story evenly exciting. Art: 9/10 Just like the prequel,the art in this Anime is the best you can hope for a fantasy anime ,sometimes its a little bit overexposed but still top-notch animation from studio MAPPA
Sound: 9/10
Even trough i didn't liked the first opening very much its second opening and ending is on the same eargasm level as from the prequel . The Background sounds in fights or in emotional moments enhance the feelings that the show wants you to express.
Characters: 8/10
It has some Clishee characters like the King or Azazel but still it has a good main cast Nina which continues the good female part like in the prequel.
Every characters backgrounds get explained really good so that you feel with them as they die or have epic moments. Same Thing as in the Story Section
the ending for each character felt a little bit to swift thats why only can give 8 Points.
Enjoymend: 10/10
I really liked the anime not only because I'm a fan of fantasy but also of great emotional storys and musicial background.Each episode got me really
excited and through the good animation i felt entertained.
Overall: 9/10
to summerize the whole show i would say that if you have a thing for fantasy storys with great characters and good animation you should watch this and the prequel.
Vyverm
An insult to the Bahamut's name. Major downgrade from S1. [Light spoilers] Tl Dr: - "The wrongs justify the rigths" This is the anime message, who was visible from the very begging (Ep 7?).Story 3: As said above, the anime plot was visible from the begging. Disappointing.
Art 5: Very bad. Almost all women have the same model with different hair.
Sound 8: Pretty good. Like the animation, the strong point here.
En
Characters 5: Almost none for everyone. When the first plot happened, I felt nothing.
Enjoyment 6: I felt I could've watched a better anime..
Overall 6: If you have nothing to what, maybe you can lose some time here.
buzxig866
Total and utter disgrace to Season 1. The new writer just shits all over the Genesis character. Holy heck I was soooooo pissed after watching that ending. And I haven't been this mad in a long time not since Guilty Crown anyway (although with GC, that show is just consistently bad and riddled with plot holes unlike Virgin Soul). I'll be honest here, this show had sooooooo much potential, but it feels like the writers forgot that they only had 24 episodes for this season. The beginning and middle were really enjoyable and I was eager to watch the next episode, but the last severalepisodes leading to the end were just plain wtf, and that very last part where they opened it up for a third season SHOULD had made me happy, but instead it gave me the feeling that they were using that as an excuse to be lazy with the ending. With Genesis we had a concise and proper ending that made me super hyped for the inevitable sequel. Here though, it just makes me concerned for season 3 considering what they did to Virgin Souls' ending.
To sum it up, avoid this like a plague, but if you haven't watched the first season, Shingeki no Bahamut: Genesis, then do yourself a favaro and do it. Right. Now.
dutchgirl2001
I'm gonna say it loud and clear: This is the best anime to watch if you like Wattpad enemies to lovers. Im talking to the Harry Potter fanfic girls, yea you know it! AND the song!! The Daoko song "Cinderella Step" is a banger!! After i finished the anime it has been on repeat for DAYSSS not kidding! AND THE DANCE SCENES!!! I've been searching other animes that can fill the void of ending this anime but there isn't one. I also started watching Chinese Anime right now cause it looks like they have more of that stuff. So in conclusion: If you like Wattpad enemies to loversto enemies and back to lovers, GIVE IT A WATCH, I know my Wattpad Harry Styles fanfic loving girls would love to see it!!!
Shichio
This is definitely the kind of sequel that does nothing but disgust even the most casual fan of the first season. Shingeki no Bahamut: Genesis even with its lack of ambition deserved and should have had a better sequel. First, because the previous season was as basic as it could have been, a clichéd and predictable narrative, but above all pleasant and functional. Something Virgin Soul is far from, although it shares the same weak structure. Genesis is simple and well-executed, while Virgin Soul is a mess. We'll start with the story first. The story takes place 10 years after the events of Genesis. The capitalof Anatae lives an era of great prosperity, thanks in part to the new king, Charioce XVII, being as stupid as the previous king, his peculiarity being that he is a tyrant who strongly encourages war between the races. In this age of prosperity, mankind subdues the demons and opposes the gods. This conflict makes room for moral and social themes and inaugurates a setting and construction of the world not seen before, in addition to the various possibilities of direction for the narrative. The story starts to develop and explore that path, right? Wrong!
First, because the real reasons for the human revolt are never explained and the story does not bother to explore this, although it uses it as a central premise, making clear the lack of creativity and ambition. Ultimately it serves more as a justification for the theft of ancient technology, which makes me question whether the previous season is as "genesis" as its name suggests. This technology has the power to rival Bahamut, but its lack of proper contextualization, like Bahamut's, returns worldbuilding to square one. Second that development is so slow that when things take a normal pace it seems that everything happened very quickly. Third and not least: the lack of focus, this is definitely the biggest problem with this work.
Any minimally well-written narrative traces a path and then develops its concepts, but when a story shuffles several ideas and does not prioritize a route, then we have a problem, mainly because it exposes all the other defects. Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul doesn't know if it wants to be an epic adventure, a light adventure, a plot about conflict resolution or a stupid story about a forbidden romance that has everything to go wrong. It has no focus and doesn't even bother to have it, it prefers to go around in circles, a truly mediocre structure. Your objective? Trying to deliver various subplots to the viewer in a lame, lazy way. A shallow story isn't a problem, not if you don't try to turn it into something bigger, you have to set boundaries with anything. Shingeki no Bahamut: Genesis is superficial and recognizes its place; so it manages to be functional. That's the main difference between the seasons, but don't be fooled! Both seasons share similarities, for example, the weak script and bad resolutions.
Oh yes, the resolutions... some of them would make any generic Mexican telenovela writer envy. If you're the type that likes a proper conclusion and closed endings then give up on this anime, it's not for you. Even the most basic solutions for secondary characters are a disaster, exposing again the narrative mess that perpetuates until the end. And speaking of characters, here we go.
If a shallow story isn't a problem, at least when you recognize it, shallow characters are a problem 90% of the time. The few times they don't, happen when the characters serve at least for comic relief or script device, if before Favaro and Kaisar were astute adventurers now they are mere supporting characters limited to cliché lines in occasional dialogues. Kaisar boils down to a pacifist knight who wants peace, but doesn't know how to make it and works more like a lackey of the king, faithful in any situation. Favaro boils down to a bum who appears when the story needs catchphrases and some moral lesson for our dear new protagonist.
Ah yes, the protagonist... Nina Drango, she is definitely the worst character in this story, calling her a generic shoujo character still wouldn't be enough to describe her ditzy personality and her depth of a saucer. Its narrative importance is basically making a romantic couple with King Charioce, Stockholm syndrome style, apparently the writers thought that this would bring depth and realism, but it was just the opposite. A couple so boring that it would make Favaro and Amira seem like the best romantic couple ever written in history. Apart from her role as a passionate girl running after a tyrant with a pretty face and no development whatsoever (although there was a huge possibility) she is disposable like a plastic plate, she adds nothing.
An honorable mention to Azazel and Jeanne, the only ones who have real development from start to finish. With personalities and aspirations that make you create intimacy and feel connected to them at some point, although they don't show good consistency. The rest of the characters are so one-dimensional and without charisma that they don't deserve to be mentioned. Characters were never the strong point of the Bahamut saga, there was a chance for that to change, but entering the cycle of stagnation and abusive cliché was the decision of the staff and creating the possibility of a new season with more mediocrity was their priority.
But come on, not only does this anime live on disgrace. The narrative part is dark, but the technique is relatively good most of the time. The previous season had more fluidity in general, Virgin Soul presents a better design of characters, scenarios, composition and color palette, but it lacks in the lines, choreography of the fights and framing and precisely because of the lack of fluidity, this camera game ends up being abusive in terms of some scenes. Oruim da arte is a dark CGI, used mainly in crowds and general extras, but also in keyframes. Which doesn't make any sense except in terms of the economy, but it's not like that economy renders very well animated scenes later, so it ends up being in the middle ground, besides, the MAPPA studio knows how to camouflage 3D well, which ended up not being done.
The openings and endings are good, the soundtrack lacks emotion and can easily be forgotten. Most of the characters' voices match well, although the mixing is poor. The sound part is just ok, nothing memorable. Even with its weak narrative and its terrible and slow development, it is an easy work to watch if you have a good tolerance. You can pass the time, but I confess that it took me a few days to complete, I couldn't see the possibility of watching more than 3 episodes a day because the execution was so bad that it slowly destroyed any desire to continue. A tiring experience, but nothing that will kill you.
With all these points duly explored, it is not difficult to call Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul the word that best describes it: disaster. This season was not a good sequel to Genesis at all and to make matters worse, it ends the path that the first season provided. It starts with several possibilities for advancing and building a truly solid plot, but prefers to follow the path of a silly novel disguised as an adventure. If in Shingeki no Bhamut: Genesis the cliché had charm, in Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul the lack of ambition is a chronic disease, if before it was functional and pleasant, now it is badly done and tedious.
If you are looking for the same emotion as the previous season, this is not where you will find it. Shingeki no Bhamut: Genesis deserved and should have had a better sequel.
PincoPallino
The world has gone crazy, no doubt about that! I came across a Youtube video with Nina and the king. I'm not into romance anime (Toradora and Lovely Compelx are the only romance shows I ever enjoyed, and I liked the romance in Blood+), but this looked promising, the art was gorgeous. So I watched the anime. To make it short, Shingeki no Bahamut: Virgin Soul was GREAT. The storytelling was flawless. It was smart and mature. I was constantly on the edge of my seat. I binge watched it in one day and did not skip a second (which is very rare for me). Tosee that the highest rated review for this series on MAL was written by a guy who thinks some (disgusting looking) hentai series is the shit (he gave it a 9 out of 10 and found it intriguing, while Shingeki only deserved 4 stars in his opinion) is disappointing to say the least.
The characters were all well written and very interesting. They were complex (even Nina) and the interactions were written incredible well. They all had connections to each other and developed deep bonds. It was a joy to see how everything played out. The script writer has a lot of talent when it comes to potraying emotions and writing characters with distinctive personalities. I coudn't list a single thing that disappointed me in this anime. Everything came together so well.
Like I said, the world has gone crazy, if a work like this gets such bad reviews. It's like someone telling you, the moon is green. Seriously, it's not. And this series is not bad either, it was amazing.
yaya-bx
My rating for this anime: 9/10 Story: 8/10 Animation: 9/10 Sound: 10/10 Characters: 9/10Enjoyment: 10/10
Story:
The story is complex and straightforward. Unlike Genesis, the power dynamic changed in Virgin Soul in favor of mankind by the time Charioce XVII, king of mankind ascended the throne. Charioce’s actions resulted in weakening the gods and demons, he raided the gods temples and enslaved demons. His actions were the result of mankind being the weak and oppressed race between two powerful races (Gods and Demons) for centuries if not a millennia.
In Genesis, it is shown that mankind were neglected by the gods that allowed for mankind’s suffering for centuries under the demons. Despite mankind worshiping the gods, gods think that excessive support to mankind is unwise. The only angel that was fond of humans was Michael and he was the one to bless Jeanne with her holy powers. Michael as he was dying admits that Bahamut’s revival was their punishment for forgetting how to work with mankind and losing Zeus. On the other hand, Demons have been terrorizing mankind for a very long time, attacking their villages and killing it’s inhabitants including little children. Genesis did hint that demons are sadistic creatures shown various times such as when Azazel laughed when he realized he killed Kaisar and Favaro’s fathers, and that he actually killed them for fun. He enjoys torturing people such as when Amira was tortured in his castle. The other demon Cerberus begs Azazel to take a turn at torturing Amira because Pazuzu’s way of torturing was boring while suggesting horrifying ways she would love to try and torture Amira. Even though Bahamut was reviving, none of these races wanted to cooperate until they were forced to since no one can take down Bahamut alone. It is important to watch Genesis to have a background on the story and its characters.
In Virgin Soul, the main focus of the plot was on the protagonist Nina Drango and the anti-villain Charioce XVII. Charioce’s actions is what moved the plot and the characters throughout the episodes. Whereas, Nina was the character that got involved with everyone and helped us see different POVs and story of each character. Nina Drango is a refreshing character, with a very positive and happy-go-lucky personality. She has the ability to turn into a dragon due to being half dragon-folk. She is from an isolated village where dragon-folk live, they are people that have the ability to transform into a dragon. She is a bounty hunter trained by Favaro that came to royal capital Anatae to earn money for her mother.
In the first cour, The story focuses on the on-going conflict between gods, demons, and humans and this time humans are seen as the villains for abusing their power. I love how this conflict is the result of the actions of all three sides. Every side thinks they are doing the right thing and no one is willing to compromise. The writers show the brutality and the devastating results of their actions. The first few episodes focused on Azazel’s attempt in freeing the demons and attempting a failed demon rebellion against Charioce. You can agree and disagree with what all three sides stand for yet realize that since none are willing to compromise this conflict will led to further complications. Charioce is willing to make mankind prosper furthermore. The gods believe mankind lost it’s way and they have to redirect them back to the gods even if it means through war. Demonkind have been waiting for the right chance to strike. Charioce was willing to eliminate everyone that stands in his way until he discovered that Nina “his love interest” was involved with them. Because of Nina, he is taking less extreme measures against his opponents rather than killing them as he was willing to in the beginning. His love story with Nina started to build up since episode 3 and it has been confirmed by the director that Charioce in fact fell in love with Nina at first sight.
In the second cour. Charioce reveals his secret weapon Dromos that he has built from the ancient artifacts he stole from the gods. All characters except for Azazel have seen the capability of the amount of destruction this weapon can do yet none know the real motive behind Charioce’s actions so they decide to stop him. The story starts to hint that Charioce’s goal is in fact to take down Bahamut which explains the reason he needed to build Dromos as it is the only weapon that is on par with Bahamut’s power. Mugaro’s death played a major role in unifying the demons and gods against Charioce who was about to break the seal and release Bahamut. None at this point figured out Charioce’s plan until Bahamut showed up at the battlefield. Gods and demons led by Gabriel and Lucifer tried to contain Bahamut’s blast but they barely did it and Charioce along with Nina put their lives on the line to use Dromos and save the world from Bahamut. Both paid the price by losing one of their most important senses: Charioce lost his right eye (both eyes are blind) and Nina lost her voice. Bahamut caused less destruction than he did 10 years ago and that is because Dromos proved to be far more powerful and took him down easily. The humans and demons are still on bad terms but they are starting to work together to build the capital. Charioce is seen as a hero who defeated Bahamut to his people.
The romance was a great subplot to the story. The love between Nina and Charioce was simple and genuine. It didn’t require major events or too much screentime, it developed in the most organic way where the development entirely depended on them both without anyone’s interference. Nina and Charioce are polar opposites but complete each other. They have great interactions and it shows us their most vulnerable sides. The romance healed Nina whereas it gave us another dimension to Charioce’s character, he isn’t the ruthless king everyone thought he was but in fact a person that is capable of love and emotions, he is human after all. The relationship gets complicated when both discover their true identity, king Charioce XVII and the red dragon. Despite that, they continued to love each other. Nina sees Chris first before king Charioce, she is conflicted about how a kind man like Chris is capable of doing horrible things as Charioce. Nina accepts both of his sides though she can’t change his past but she can change his present and future. Charioce despite being in love with Nina stayed in character until the end, it truly proven that he is a king with an incredible mental fortitude. Despite the odds being against them, their love won in the end. I loved the symbolism in their relationship such as the dance and chili pepper, things both of them cherish. The body language that each character displayed was wonderful. My only complaint is that I wish we have seen things from Charioce’s POV and his emotions more.
I think the story is wonderful, sure it had potential to be greater but still was wonderful. The main issue was the pacing and not the story. If the show had 30 episodes I think it would have answered many questions and covered the story better. The story is very well-written but they couldn’t fit it within 24 episodes because the story had to deal with many things that the series didn’t wrap up at the end. Just because the ending was rushed doesn’t make the anime bad.
Animation:
The animation was amazing. From Anatae, to dragon village, to land of the gods, and the battlefield animations was just superb. I was always in awe in the beauty of the scenery every episode. Mappa never disappoints when it comes to animation. I will always consider the animation in Shingeki no Bahamut one of the best I’ve seen in anime. The CGI feels off sometimes but it doesn’t bother me.
Sound:
The soundtracks in Shingeki no Bahamut is perfect. Every new soundtrack presented in the anime amazes me. My favorite is definitely Nina and Charioce’s theme, its such a beautiful melody. I love the battle soundtracks too and the Chorus of Despair version in Virgin Soul is much better than its Genesis version.
The voice acting was amazing too. Nina’s voice fits her character perfectly and the seiyuu did an excellent job with it. Yuuichirou Umehara brought Charioce’s character with his voice, I can listen to him talk forever. All the Seiyuus did very well especially Rita and Kaisar’s seiyuus. The cast were one of the best seiyuus the industry offers.
Characters:
The variety of characters in this show is amazing. I feel attached and invested in every character in the story. Every character is unique and for some reason I feel connected with them. Main characters, secondary characters, and even background characters left an impact in the show, it shows you how well-written these characters are even if they were not relevant or did not get enough screen time.
The characters design was perfect. Each character has a special characteristic to them and most are peculiar to anime standards. Naoyuki Onda’s magic never disappoints anyone. Even Genesis characters look much better in Virgin Soul. I’m glad they made the gods less shiny this time even Lucifer, my eyes hurt when I saw Lucifer in Genesis.
Enjoyment:
This has become one if not my all-time favorite anime. I have enjoyed all 24 episodes without feeling bored. I was invested in the story and I got attached to all the characters. This anime is not perfect but it had almost everything that I’d want in an anime. I’d recommend this anime to everyone. After the anime ended I felt hollow and I still am a little bit, because for months I have been attached to these characters and the story and its difficult to say good bye. Thank you Studio Mappa and Cygames, I hope we got more of Shingeki no Bahamut and I want to see all these characters return to screen sometime soon.
rEd_fOXx
After completing Genesis ( 1st season of Bahamut ), this was painful to watch * MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD* The forced romance between Chris and Nina The borderline retarded character of Nina was annoyingly painful to watch They just nerfed the gods and demons, the same gods and demons who were way too strong against humans in the first season The main and best characters of the show i.e. Favaro and Kaiser were both pretty much sidelined by that joke of an mc character Nina I GENUINELY WISH THAT I COULD UNWATCH THIS ONE AND NEVER WATCH IT EVER AGAIN, THAT IS JUST HOW BAD I THINK IT WAS, SURE THAT ISJUST MY OPINION AND NOT A FACT !
